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Letter to the Editor: A Plea to the Mayor of Macungie

The writer would like the mayor to attend the next council meeting.

 

To the Editor:

My Challenge to the Mayor of the Borough of Macungie is to have the decency to come to the next meeting on July 2.

Meet with the citizens who voted for you and put you in office. Then we can have a discussion on the 24/7 proposal and put it to rest.  

I hope we have a strong showing of the citizens as well.         

John L. Long,

Macungie homeowner and taxpayer

Editor's Note: Macungie Borough Council meets at 7:30 p.m. July 2 in the meeting room of the Macungie Institute.

Related Topics: Letter to the Editor, Macungie Borough Council, and Macungie Mayor Rick Hoffman

Ron Beitler

8:55 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

While as a business owner in the borough, and someone who is looking to purchase our studio's 'forever home' in the borough... I still am not certain the borough needs 24/7. And I actually think the Mayor's plan of leaving MINIMAL shifts open on a ROLLING basis makes some sense. Thats just one persons opinion.

I am very disapointed he hasnt been at recent meetings. I think the tact he has taken has essentially discredited his position and that is sad. As I've said he is spot on with the basic principle of the whole Mayor/oversight over police issue. The judge ruled correctly in the Mayors favor that yes, the mayor is the elected head of the PD. Citizen oversight of military and police in the United States is a basic principle that makes this country what it is.

Now do I think the Mayor takes this too far? Yes.

I do agree with this letter writer that the Mayor needs to come to the next meeting. And as I've said a dozen times in comments about this issue over the last couple weeks.... Whose going to run now that we know the Mayor isn't seeking re-election?

Whose gonna FINALLY start the process of moving past this issue one way or another so we can finally concentrate on other issues that matter?

Remember, there are councilpeople whose positions are up as well next election also.

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another voice

10:03 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Ron, I really wish you were aware of the details concerning that whole fiasco. The mayors lawsuit was ridiculous since, at no time, did anyone say he had no oversight of the police department. Everyone agrees that the mayor oversees the department and has no problem with that. NO ONE challenged that authority. This power hungry mayor took it way too far by attempting to make foolish and totally uninformed decisions on how the police should do their jobs. He also took unwarranted and unsubstantiated "shots" at the police accusing them of being "out of control" and needing to be "reined In". He has yet to provide ANY examples or incidents and has done nothing regarding these accusations since there is no action to take.

As for 24/7 coverage, we can agree to disagree. This boro, as well as every municipality, deserves 24/7 police protection. It can be accomplished by none better than their own department.

Ron Beitler

10:16 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

I agree he's taken it too far. But thats the beauty of elected officials. I would imagine he would have absolutely no shot at winning if he chose to run again. But we wont have to deal with that. Now again, lets just find a unifier candidate who can move us past this.

I'm just agreeing with the basic principle. I've talked to people who dont understand that or disagree with that. Thats scary to me, since it's so fundamental. But thats big picture issue that really.... is a small issue for the borough in terms of moving past this fiasco.

This whole thing devolved into a soap opera. Judge V got it right when she said - "It's more about egos in this case than the law," - Judge Varricchio

However, the ruling gave hoffman access to schedules which from what I understand (and please correct me if I'm wrong) he didnt have before. I would think schedule access is essential for a Mayor to have oversight of a dept.

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Ron Beitler

10:27 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Ya 24/7 mandate. You do or you don't think it's crucial agree to disagree. I don't.

I feel completely and totally safe in the borough. I feel completely and totally safe having equipment stored at my studio here. An random unadvertised open shift here and there to avoid overtime wouldn't change this.

The PD takes up a massive chunk of a small borough's budget. Council and Mayor's job should constantly be scrutinizing ways to lower that dollar amount without compromising service. (as they should with any dept and any decision).

There are things I feel very strongly about that are being ignored or seems like some on this current crop of officials have zero interest in. I've written about the 2010 Main St. revitalization plan. This plan is a huge reason my partners and I CHOSE Macungie to setup shop it. And it was a choice. We considered many locations. I want to be in a vibrant small town-downtown. I love that I walk to lunch everyday. That today at 5pm I am going to walk over to the farmers market. That I could take a break and check out the band-shell rededication the other day...

http://lowermacungie.patch.com/blog_posts/what-happened-to-macungies-downtown-master-plan

I feel strongly about streetscape improvements that take the communities strengths and capitalize on them. More retail/restaurant, another pub perhaps, more office space and encouraging mixed use buildings downtown are tax base winners. I get discouraged that this one issue dominates so much.

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another voice

10:34 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Actually, he had access to the schedules from the beginning. The police department did not want him taking them home, for obvious reasons. From the very beginning, Chief Harry offered to sit down with him and go over the schedules and answer any questions he had or listen to any suggestions. The chief explained this many times in public at council meetings to make sure everyone was clear on the issue. Unfortunately for the boro and the PD, that simply wasn't good enough for him. I'm sure you would agree that the police schedules leaving the building and going to someone's home would definitely jeopardize the officers and residents safety. What security over the documents would exist in his home? Who would see them? Who else would have access? All legitimate concerns brought up at the time by the police. But when dealing with an uncompromising individual, avoidable problems then arise.

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another voice

12:18 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

You may feel safe. Most of the citizens do. We can thank the Macungie PD for that. It is easy to say that you don't have a problem with an occasional opened shift. You haven't needed them and they were not there. Would you feel the same way if someone called in the middle of the night to report someone breaking into your business and they were told no one is on duty? Sure, the call would then be given to PSP. Would they be in the area or would they be tied up on a call at the other end of the county? Don't forget that they may only have one or two cars on during the night to cover a large part of the county. That includes 22 and 78. Good luck getting a quick response. Or how about a drunk driver that just plowed into another car causing injuries and no one is nereby to respond. These are some examples of what just might happen during that "rolling uncovered shift" to save some money. Would you only get insurance for 10 months out of the year and go uninsured for the other two months to save money? I don't think so. Same thing IMO.

Ron Beitler

10:37 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012

I agree with you on that AV. When the Mayor wanted GPS... I wrote about how I though it was ridiculous for him to advocate for GPS on his home personal computer. That was just absurd. Perfect example of him taking things too far.

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Responsible Citizen

9:30 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Ron Beitler...it is obvious you are not as informed as you think you are. I echo Another Voice. And if you would have attended all or most of the council meetings, your comments would be more accurate and you wou would be better informed. If you plan on becoming a borough resident in the future, it is advisable you DO inform yourself or you will become one of the many uninformed voters here which got us into this mess in the first place!

Ron Beitler

10:47 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Difference of opinion is not the same as uninformed.... But if I am basing an opinion on something that isn't correct then by all means please enlighten me. That's after all why I blog/comment ect.

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Responsible Citizen

8:58 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Mr. Beitler...that is exactly why I responded...yours is not a "difference of opinion". It IS uninformed! Everything should have been corrected and clarified by Another Voice which was my point. Hope that helps!!

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Ron Beitler

9:24 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

The MPD costs 605,000 per year
Of which approximately 400,000 is salary and benefits of which 51,000 is PT wages and 10,000 is OT.

It's my opinion a rolling open shift on a random basis (criminals don't know when) would not effect the quality of police protection we receive in the borough.

How is that uninformed?

Ron Beitler

9:27 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

If you saying I'm uninformed regarding the soap opera antics... Then fine.

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John Rogers

10:11 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

C'mon Ron. I don't believe for a minute that you are that naive. Do criminals only strike municipalities when there are no police on duty?????? Does it really matter if the criminals know or not? They strike ALL municipalities. That being said, if a criminal wants to find oout if there is an officer on duty, do you really think it would be that hard? It would probably take me all of about a minute and a half to find out if an officer is on duty. That is only point number one. Did you read what another voice wrote? Do you seriously think police only respond to crimes? How about traffic accidents? How about EMS calls where they are on scene well before the ambulance? How about the general quality of life calls that PSP won't respond to, ex: ordinance violations? How about, how about, how about. I can go on and on with non criminal calls that the police respond to. Who responds to those calls when the PD is not on duty. Wow. Please don't start to sound like some of the stalwarts on council who consistently put their heads in the sand and rely on arguments that simply don't hold water. As AV stated, if you happened to need the police on that once in a while shift that was uncovered and they were not on duty, you would certainly think differently.

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Ron Beitler

10:37 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

And again, we're going in circles. Difference of opinion. I live in LMT, only my business is in Macungie. I am happy with service I get both locations. I am very happy with PSP coverage in LMT. I'm relying on my personal experience with PSP service in LMT.

I live on Lower Mac Rd. so unfortunately :( I was in the immediate area when the recent accident happened in front of LMT elementary. The police response was immediate and impressive.

What are you referring to that PSP won't respond to? Noise complaints? Thats not a PSP thing it's a we don't have a noise ordinance thing. This came up recently at a BOC meeting.

Ordinance complaints we have a zoning officer and a separate Code enforcement officer.

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John Rogers

10:56 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

PSP will not respond to any local ordinance violations. Do your zoning and code officers work after 4 PM? Who responds to those types of complaints when they are not available. In Macungie, the police do. When PSP is busy they also will not respond to minor accidents or any not considered serious. As for the accident you referred to. The immediate and impressive response was due to the time of day. PSP has many more troopers on during the day than during evening and night time hours. Chief Harry has explained many times at council meetings that PSP has asked them to respond on many occasions to emergency calls in the township because they were busy or to far away to respond expeditiously.

John Rogers

10:57 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Sorry, on the fourth line I meant to write that they will not respond to "anything" not considered serious when busy. Didn't proofread before hitting submit.

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Ron Beitler

11:16 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

No problem, I'm never one to play grammar police on comments... I make a lot of typos!

So the question is.. Do I think it's worth spending X amount of money to have a police dept available to deal with ordinance violations immediately (vs. the next day or Monday) or a minor fender bender or say noise complaint.

In the borough it's approx (these could be wrong just quick figures off top of my head) MPD coverage costs over 200 dollars per person per year.

Do I think that kind of bill is worth the extra service?

No.

Again... just my opinion.

Ron Beitler

11:04 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Ok got the scoop on EMS

County Dispatch - Simultaneously calls ambulance and local police in the case of Macungie. Macungie police "most of the time" responds simultaneously with EMS when they wouldn't would be if they are on another call or busy.

In other words, MPD is always dispatched. It's up to them whether they respond. But most of the time they do if possible.

In LMT it's EMS only, however the Fire Dept is also available to assist and also has defibilator capability and general 1st responder services ect. So this is a 2nd level of service.

Now in the borough as you correctly stated the MPD oftentimes are first on scene by a matter of seconds to minutes. But the discrepancy isn't much.

And these are ball parking figures but asked to provide estimates...only in a very very small % of cases mostly extreme life or death situations do having the MPD arrive seconds or minutes earlier make a difference.

In other words there is a very very low % of increase in service other then "comfort" or say the MPD securing an unsecured scene. (however even in LMT if the situation is say a stabbing or something criminal of course the PSP will be dispatched simultaneously.)

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Ron Beitler

11:09 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

So, the issue is.... spending X LARGE amount of money that in your logic is reasonable to cover a TINY X% of open coverage to provide a TINY increase in outcome.

In reality MPD first response offers better/above and beyond coverage in a tiny % of life/death situations.

Thats your logic and stance. I understand it, but I don't agree with it.

And I don't mean to be callous but to provide an example. The gov't could come in and mandate that every house should have a defibrillator. (not too far fetched considering we now require sprinkler systems in new construction)

THIS would be a more reasonable course of action then your argument to spend X amount of money to cover X% of open shift.

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John Rogers

11:35 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

To answer your question, yes I do feel it is worth every penny. And, apparently, so do the majority of Macungie's residents and business owners judging by the two surveys, remarks at council meetings, and comments online.

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Ron Beitler

11:43 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

I said I may be in minority. Wonderful thing about America is the minority can still speak up! :) This is the kind of item I wish we'd see more referendums on. Public meetings I am completely jaded with. Very few usually with the loudest opinions show up. Surveys, again those same people vote and vote and vote. Comments.. ditto.

Now, I wouldnt be surprised at all if I am in the minority but no way to know.

Sadly, most people are completely clueless. I polled informally 3 friends who live in the borough. All 3 (college grads, not dummies by any means) have no clue about anything going on. THIS is the main reason I blog and do what I do.

In LMT we see articles about the % of masters degrees people have. Still same thing. BOC meetings you have dozen people. Maybe. No one has a clue. It's not that people can't contribute or aren't intelligent enough. It's they don't care.

sad. sad. sad.

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Just Say It

12:08 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

Mr. Beiler,
Based on past surverys of Macungie residents regarding quality of life in our community, the general consensus is residents are willing to pay extra money for the "comfort" level you spoke about regarding police coverage as well as fire and medical services. Isn't that really what this is about....what the residents want? That's one of the benefits of municipal government, we can have the services we desire in our own communities.

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get real

11:13 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

Ron Beitler, i have been reading your many rambling comments dealing with the Macungie mayor and police department. Your statements appear to be more than just opinion. They actually sound like attempts to promote the agenda of a certain Macungie clique. I'm curious, why have i never heard of your business in Macungie? What taxes do you pay in Macungie? Come on Ron, get real!

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Ron Beitler

9:12 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

@Get real www.barnoneweddings.com
Stop by the studio anytime. Here 9-6pm Mon-Thur. Next to the Subway. I love talking about local issues. But if you see it as just rambling... then your prob uninterested.

Have no clue what clique your referring to. There are basically two groups of people who show up sparsely at council meetings. If I'm in a "clique" which is ridiculous to say, its the one (whoever/whatever it is) that hopes we get at least 3 new councilman and a Mayor on 12/31/13. The one that wants to move past the police issue. Is tired if seeing Macungie in the newspapers for all the wrong reasons.

Have a great weekend!

Ron Beitler

11:23 am on Friday, June 29, 2012

Perfect world. We'd have all this and more. But in local gov't tough decisions need to be made regarding what little money there is available goes where.

You clearly value extended police protection above all else. Thats your right. Many share your opinion.

I personally think other issues that would take less resources but would have a large measurable positive impact are being ignored.

Take my favorite issue. Downtown Streetscape. The added tax revenue from attracting new commercial could even pay for more police protection if we'd attract high end retail, restaurants, entertainment, offices ect. ect. (revenue winners)

But the issue is completely ignored cause the borough is broke. Are there other reasons contributing to this? Absolutely (lawsuits for one and legal defense, there was recently another silly lawsuit initiated by a resident against the borough manager over the mural issue)...

But anyone who takes a glance at the budget can see MPD is the biggest expense.

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Responsible Citizen

12:27 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

You mr. Bitler are like all the rest who whine over "taxes" when it comes toeducationinthis country too! You and all the rest who share your sentiments need to realize there are no free lunches! Education, police protection, healthcare services and the like all cost money! You have expressed yourself on and on about YOUR priority which is the Beautification project in Macungie because it benefits YOUR business. Well...there are a majority of us who possess different priorities which involve the safety, well being, education etc.....of everyone!

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Guy Ramsey

11:01 am on Monday, July 2, 2012

How much tax revenue does your business contribute to the Borough Budget? I believe, unless you live in the borough, the only tax revenue comes from property tax. There are no municipal business taxes. So, high end retail, restaurants, offices, might not broaden the tax base. Unless the owner lives in the borough, the employees live in the borough, or the business substantially increases the value of the property, a business does not generate much revenue and that revenue is offset by cost of fire, police, and medical emergency services.

I know is sounds like blasphmeny, and is counter to the current pro business mantra often chanted. Pro business thinking must focus on quality of life, and fit in the master plan, a vision for the future of the borough.
BTW, I supported the proposed streetscape plan because I thought it would improve the quality of live. It would have changed the town substantially, It would have inconvieniened those rushing through the Borough. But, it would have made the downtown safer, more walkable and opened doors for other kinds of business.
Perhaps, specialty retail and restaurants.

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Ron Beitler

11:35 am on Monday, July 2, 2012

@Guy right now.. DIRECTLY - 40.00 (4 employees x 10.00 local services tax)
Near future we're hiring 3 more employees so that number will be 70.00

As you know it adds up total Local services tax revenue is 11,300.00 in grand scheme, not that much. .06 % of total budget.

I can tell you this. I would be more then willing to pay more and would lobby for an increase in the local services tax if it funded a streetscape improvement plan.

INDIRECTLY - We rent office space in the borough. Our landlord pays real estate taxes. I have no idea what his bill is. But I do know that 551,198.000 is the 2012 real estate tax number. Now that is about 30% of total borough revenue, the largest single source.

Can't discount this cause it's indirect. You can bet taxes are passed on to us as a part of our rent.

Also I assume when my landlord added a new suite in his building the value/assessment went up and the tax bill went up which I help defray as part of my rent.

Correct?

Ron Beitler

4:35 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

@RC You make a lot of assumptions.... I've lobbied extensively for restoration to state system higher Ed. Funding.

My business is an appointment based sought ought service. Well do fine even of main street was paved in dirt.

My argument is for further economic development which provides guess what.... Tax base! Which benefits.. Everyone.

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Responsible Citizen

12:41 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

I am in agreement with Get Real....RBeitler, you just "ramble" on and on and on and on........................................................

get real

10:22 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

If the mayor shows up, will he answer the many questions that have been asked by the citizens for the last several meetings?

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Responsible Citizen

12:42 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

History generally repeats itself so guess the answer is NO!!!!

Ron Beitler

9:21 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

Local issues are nuanced, complicated not always cut and dry. If trying to figure out positive solutions and if I'm unclear on something calling the source and getting factual info is rambling. <-- Guilty.

Anyways have a great weekend gentleman/ladies. Happy 4th!

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Robert Sentner

9:36 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012

You guys are fighting with the wrong person. I have only met Ron once but have had numerous conversations with him on blogs. He is very informed and could bring a great deal of knowledge to the boro. Yes he has a difference of opinion. Do I agree with him on this issue "NO" but that doesn't mean that "he is one of them". I am not a resident of the Boro but what goes on there greatly impacts my everyday as I travel and do business in the town each and everyday. A great little town that has a couple of bad apples and one Rotten apple. Lets all work at coming up with some great applicants for council and Mayor this next election. and start the process of working together.
Just remember sometimes there will be a difference in opinion and as long as there is no hidden agenda it is just that "a difference of opinion".

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john l.long

9:29 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012

Mr Mayor , I hope you have heard the people and I hope you do met my Challenge and do make an Appearance tomorrow night . July 2,2012.
Respectfully,
John L. Long

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