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Stolz, Ballard Clash Over Willow Lane Busing

A motion by East Penn School Director Julian Stolz to retain busing in the 2013-14 school year for those Willow Lane students being bused this year was defeated by a 6-3 vote at Monday’s School Board meeting.

 

The greater part of Monday night’s East Penn Board of School Directors meeting was all about Willow Lane Elementary School and the busing of its students.

It began with a public comment period during which several parents of Willow Lane children addressed the board with reasons that Willow Lane should not become a walking school with the start of the 2013-2014 school year.

After that, Superintendent Thomas L. Seidenberger shared the findings of an excrutiatingly detailed transportation study, designed to shed light on many transportation concerns in the district, including next steps at Willow Lane.

All of that led up to debate on a motion by School Director Julian Stolz to retain busing in the 2013-2014 school year for those Willow Lane students being bused this year.

Dissention followed when board president Charles Ballard didn’t pull any punches in explaining why he would be voting against Stolz’s motion:

“First of all, I find the concept of attempting, before we have enough information to direct the administration to do something of this nature, premature and unwise.

“I find it highly offensive personally that the person declaring to be conservatively principled is willing to throw those principles under the bus and support a motion to spend money for a very small group without having all of the facts in place to determine those expenditures to be warranted or wise.

“The information provided in the transportation study provides different options that should be considered. This is nothing more than a pandering attempt to obtain votes that should not have been countenanced by a sitting school board member,” he said.

Stolz immediately shot back sharp words of his own, declaring it his right to do so because of the “personal nature of the comments” made by Ballard.

“I find it interesting that the very people who use children for political gain are willing to throw them quite literally under the bus,” he said. “I am a conservative, but I am willing to stop and look at what we are doing and make sure that when we do it, we do it right and not simply rubber-stamping the administration’s agenda.”

School directors Francee Fuller and Kenneth Bacher both said that they would like to see Stolz’s motion tabled until they had time to review the administration’s transportation study and its recommendations.

Bacher said: “I don’t like the idea of singling out parts of our population for special treatment. If I were to vote for such a proposal, I’d like to see that it be phrased in a way that applies to all of our students, not just Willow Lane.”

The motion was ultimately defeated by a 6-3 vote with directors Stolz, Lynn Donches and Michael Policano voting in favor of Stolz’s motion.

Related Topics: East Penn School District and Willow Lane Elementary School

Garrett Rhoads

2:30 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Director Stolz's motion was designed to provide a safe and smooth transition to walking at Willow Lane if need be depending on the outcome of walking studies by the District and the Township. Director Stolz is not up for election this year, so "pandering" for votes is not a valid argument. Ballard not only "bullied" Julian Stolz tonight. He also bullied Mrs. Donches (again) for attempting to include complete accounting codes in the bill list so she could perform due diligence. When students act like this in school, they are disciplined for bullying. It would be nice if our School Board could adhere to the codes of conduct they impose on our students.

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for real

6:32 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

The votes being pandered for are to elect you and the rest of the CEPTA ticket which would finally put Mr. Stolz in the majority. I'm sure you and the others plan to announce soon right? Let me guess on your platform: No tax increases ever in a million years, reduced class sizes (just like last cycle) remove the ever present pornography in the curriculum and of course restore Willow transportation.

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Ron Beitler

9:25 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I have one question. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I went to the meeting last night to hear the TIF report but ended up listening to the transportation study.

Last year, the board voted to eliminate busing at Willow. Same as this year. Correct?

Once summer hit and it was obvious safety enhancements wouldn't be in place busing was reinstated by the superintendent. Correct? (the township was caught flat-footed 2 years after school was built. Still mind boggling the school opened without flashers or even ONE SINGLE SIGN indicating a school in the area.......)

What's the difference here/now?

Let this play out for another 2 months. If we're not in say April ready to rock with shovels hitting the ground then do the same thing as last year. The administration has the authority to reinstate busing if safety issues aren't in place. This was determined last year.

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Bob Guzzardi

10:23 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Mr. Ballard's demonizing of the dissenters to his dictates is disgusting. Good for Julian and Mrs. Donches (whom I don't know).

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Garrett Rhoads

12:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

@for real: I am not, and never have been a member of CEPTA. Further, I do not need any assistance from Julian Stolz if I were to run a campaign. I find your online tantrums boorish and ignorant.

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Black Sheep

1:05 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

We don't want bullies in our schools and yet we have Charles Ballard (one of the BIGGEST bullies going) on the school board.

Jeff Brosky

7:05 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

i think if the willow lane parents so want busing for there children
they can help defray the costs of busing there kids by paying a little more in taxes remove my school taxes as i am a senior citizen let parents pick up the tab

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Matthew Mull

8:05 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Jeff-
As a parent whose children will be walking the dangerous route that the Board has admittedly never bothered to walk themselves, I am willing to pay extra. I brought this up both in person at the Willow Lane meeting in November and in writing. In both cases I was told it is against the law in Pennsylvania to charge for bussing as it would potentially discriminate against low income families.

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Matt L.

8:54 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Get together with parents in your neighborhood and hire a chauffeur on your own dime then. JJ luxury transportation has vans. http://jjtransportation.com
They also have nice town cars and limo vans if money really is no object for you.

Seriously though all kidding aside busing should be a PAY FOR service district wide.

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Matthew Mull

1:18 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Frankly I do not see the safety of kids to be something to kid about. If you want to save a few pennies while increasing children's safety then I guess we have vastly different priorities. Looks can be deceiving - just because the building is new and looks like a 'country club" does not mean there are unsafe walking conditions.
AS far as being "fair" - I do not live in the areas where other children have to walk to school. If that is a concern for those families then fine - I say busing needs to be extended to them as well. I have not heard one parent say they only want it for Willow and not Alburtis, etc. It is an invalid straw man arguement.

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Mazz

10:26 am on Monday, February 18, 2013

@Jeff, we already do in our school taxes. Rest assured i pay above the average for school taxes and without bussing, am receiving less services. Those of us with "walkers" should be fighting for a tax credit. You are asking us to pay twice.

Missy Moyer-Schneck

7:12 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I find it hilarious that those who dislike mr stolz views on matters and yet still sit on this school board take offence to his concerns and immediately say its political when those knuckleheads do this all the time. Mr Ballard sounds as if he's getting a little too crusty for this job and should maybe consider retirement. And for real, great comment, shoot the person that has the concerns of the children in mind, yeah, makes perfect sense. I think if you put a school board together if just fifth graders they would have better ideas than any of these crusty old men

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Jane S

7:51 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I think the point that Mr. Ballard was making is clear - Stoltz is for cutting everything under the sun when it suits him, and in general has no interest in helping our children get the best education. His only interest in the past is reducing the amount teachers are paid, and preventing our taxes from going up. He doesn't care about education - or bussing for that matter.

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Matt L.

8:51 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I'm for exploring cutting anything non-essential non-academic. The 40 some mils we property owners pay is ridiculous and rises every.single.year. Have you seen the country club area around Willow? How is that possibly unsafe? Nation of.........

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Janet Persing

7:59 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

And the fifth graders would pay school taxes just like the crusty old men, right?

Scott Alderfer

7:13 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

It sounds like Ken Bacher had a reasonable argument against Stolz's motion: don't micromanage transportation policy to try to fix only Willow's issues (and I am a Willow parent who is affected by the current busing controversy). The school district and the township finally seems to be working in earnest on a safe and (long-term) cost-effective solution to the walking question at Willow with the ability to apply it to all other elementary schools in the district. I agree that it's too soon to declare the current joint efforts failed, so, regardless of motives, I think Stolz's motion was premature at best.

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LMTnative

9:46 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Finally someone on this site has some common sense. Well stated Scott. If the district and township operated according their standard M.O. nothing will get done in time and the kids will be back on busses again anyway.

Jane S

7:48 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

The hypocrisy is clear as day and Mr. Ballard hit it right on the head. Stoltz is pandering, plain and simple. He's always against extra spending unless it will help him get votes.

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Matthew Mull

8:08 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Ballard wants one thing - get the bussing eliminated ASAP and get the item off of his agenda. All we ever hear from the School Board, Teachers and Administration is that they want parents to be more involved. Here is a group of parents that has offered many times to find solutions, discuss the issues like adults, and actually be a part of the solution. Yet the Board has made clear they just want sheeple - not someone who actually will question them

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ron

8:20 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Why is this issue so complicated. If they have side walks, flashers marking a 15mph school zone, well marked cross walks and crossing gaurds they walk if not they get bused. Problem solved, your welcome. These clowns should run for congress they would fit right in. they are more interested in arguing with each other instead of solving problems!

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Giovanni Landi

8:33 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

The board members who are labeled as "caring about the children education" by district employees seem to be nothing more than be a rubber stamp for whatever the administration wants. Whether it's more secrecy, tax increases, or irresponsible budget cuts. While the board members accused of being "conservative" (like it’s a bad word) seem be advocating for more transparency, like having public discussions about all the things that affect our children's education, from the budget to curriculum. Being a fiscal conservative doesn't mean you cut first and ask questions later. It means you make responsible cuts. If I remember correctly Ballard, Earnshaw, Fuller and Bacher voted for a budget that cut bussing in the first place, without any studies or safety plans in place. Now they are saying they need to do their due diligence? Where was the due diligence before? Why not reinstate bussing until the safety measures like ron mentioned above are in place? Mr. Stolz tried to prevent the bussing from being cut out of the budget last year. How is that pandering for votes in this year's election? Once again, people like "for real" are trying to rewrite history.

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Scott Alderfer

10:43 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Given how contentious ANY spending is for some of the directors on this school board, I think it would have been difficult to get approval to spend money on transportations studies if there was not already a mandate in place to eliminate busing from walkable neighborhoods around Willow Lane. That would have been viewed as putting the cart before the horse.

Giovanni Landi

8:37 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

One more question. When was the transportation study completed? Stolz made the request for this motion to be put on the agenda a month ago. Were the school board directors given the study in time to review it and make an informed decision? If not, why? Since Fuller and Bacher said they wanted more time to review the study before voting maybe they should ask the superintendent how long the study was sitting on his desk.

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Matt L.

8:47 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Busing is not a right. It's an extremely expensive 5 million dollar luxury. The state doesn't reimburse for inside 1.5 miles. Don't like that? call State Rep. Ryan Mackenzine. It's very easy to give out an ENTITLEMENT but always very hard to take them away. Stolz should know this better then anyone.....

Whats good for the borough's is good for the suburbs which in alot of ways are much safer. The area around willow lane is practically a park. Bike paths are consistently 20 feet off the road. Think it's unsafe your welcome to drive your kid.

This taxpayer thanks Mr. Ballard et al.

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Giovanni Landi

9:19 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Matt – I understand what you're saying and agree that bussing is not a right. I also agree that some of the students should be walking, however I live in the borough, and when my kids went to Jefferson they rode the bus, and according to mapquest we are 1.16 miles from the school. So the 1.5 mile rule is not set in stone. Safety should be the top priority when make changes like this. I think a lot of the parents are going to be driving their kids if they don't have bussing. Does anyone know if this was included in the study? I would be curious to see the results. Is the study posted on the EPSD website?

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ted.dobracki

9:50 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

During his lengthy presentation, th superintendent explained that that >1.5 mile automatically qualifies that students bussing for state reimnursement but shorter routes that are deemd dangerous by PennDot will also qualify for reinmbursement. Also, schools don't need to bus any students at all, except for special ed with transport in their IEP's. But if they supply transport to some students, then charter school and private school students fall under the same rules as the regular strudents (with a ten mile limit).

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Ron Beitler

10:00 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

@Ted - The requirements for busing charter school kids make no sense to me. What is the rationale if any for a district paying to bus charter kids by a different set of rules? Am I missing something? Is this something required by the state?

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ted.dobracki

7:13 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

I was confused by the super's remarks about charter students. At the beginning, he made it a point that there were only two groups of kids that were guaranteed bussing - special ed and charter schools. Later on during the presentation or questions, there were many times when they mentionedthe numnber of walkers to Seven Generations within 0.75 miles or 1.5 miles. Clearly if those kids can (and do) walk, then all charter students don't need to be bussed.

Eric

9:31 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

If Stolz would have had his way this would have been voted on before the transportation study was complete at the last board meeting. How is that a good idea? Also, why are the kids in Emmaus and Alburtis being ignored? Political pandering is an understatement. Stolz will do anything to elect his tea party buddies.

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Bob Guzzardi

10:21 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Julian Stolz has been a cost cutter and now shows that he is not a mindless cost cutter. Too often School Boards rubber stamp administration.

The personal attacks by Mr. Ballard were uncalled for. Address the ideas not the person. If it is a good idea, do it. If not, don't do it.

Sometimes people you don't like have good ideas. It happens more often than we think and to attack motivations distracts from careful consideration on the merits.

I have known Julian for a long time and he is an exceptionally polite young man. Mr. Ballard's remarks were out of line and demand an apology.

The merits are something I can address because I don't live in the district and I don't have the facts. But I can address Mr. Ballard's efforts to personalize a policy issue and demonize a dissenter.

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optimist

3:59 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

You sure have known him for a long time. You finance his campaigns even though you don't live in East Penn. How much will you give the Stolz/CEPTA ticket this time around?

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Rob Hamill

4:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Optimist is a paid teacher union goon, paid to post too.

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Bob Guzzardi

5:43 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

an infinistemal amount compared to what ypur teachers' union will give to their guys to vote their agenda.

enraged

10:27 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

The president of the board -Charkes Ballard is far too old, cranky, and petulant for his position. I have been at mutliple school board meetings, and he always gets a kick out of wielding his authority and bullying any board member that raises a question counter to his opinion. He was also abrasive to a parent in attendance when she tried to speak as well. It is unfortunate that the board is merely trying to trim the budget and not listen to the concerns of the parents. It was refreshing to see Stolz continue to stand up for the cause he has been working for since the start- children safety - and not a line item budget slash. It's called sticking to your guns and making sure the safety plan is implemented properly, not pandering for votes. If you have not been at the meetings nor are familiar with the direct intersections and history of accidents there, you should become more informed before spouting out. What is the ETA on at least the flashing school zone signs at this school with dangerous intersections? And when is the expiration date on Ballard's term as president? I have had enough of his garbage.

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Rob Hamill

1:23 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Ballard takes his orders from the teachers union, and there is not enough money to pay the $1,000,000 increase in salaries, the $1,000,000 increase in pensions, and the $74,000 increase in administrative salaries. Who do these damn parents think they are to not sacrifice their kids?

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taxed-enough

1:23 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

If the school board is so concerned that we only bus students which qualify for state reimbursement, why in the world do we bus school athletes to sports events? We are not required by law to bus athletes to games (including JV and varsity, and middle school sports and all the after school activity buses). If we are really going to cut down on bus expenses, why do we bus school athletes to away games when it obviously has nothing to do with academics? Any students who participate in Lower Macungie Athletic Association provide their own transportation to all away games by having their parents drive them. And, if you are not there on time, you just sit out the first half of the game. So, parents get them there on time. There is a reason why we bus all athletes to all away games when it is not required by law. The school board has athletics as a priority over getting kindergarteners to school safely. Athletics are very important to the school board. They make that very clear, athletes are more important than those kindergarteners who should really walk 1.5 miles to school at five years old.

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Janet Persing

4:30 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

Correct and factual point. Thank you!

Bob Guzzardi

1:52 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

So it the self-righteous and insulting Mr. Ballard who is the political pandering, happily, increasing school costs (without any attendant increase in education results for the kids) rather than Julian Stolz who has shown he is not a cost cutting, heartless ideologue.

Mr. Ballard uses "literally" incorrectly. Maybe time for him to go back to school, charm school. :-)

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Rob Hamill

1:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

The teachers union official position is to eliminate bussing in PA, so the 6 directors that voted to throw the kids under the bus are simply following union orders. The union has extensively supported 5 of those 6 directors, Pretty disgusting.

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Emmaus Mom

3:47 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Please provide information about teachers unions trying to eliminate bussing in PA. I have searched and searched since the last time this was mentioned and can not find evidence of this. Please share your source so everyone can have the same information.

taxed-enough

2:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Rob, you are correct that the unions are out of control in our state, and therefore the kids and parents will get hurt. This is just the beginning. The last extension of the teacher contract was not given to the public online with any review period for citizens to read it. It is concealed pretty well, and never online. So, they can flush away millions in pork and benefits in the union contracts that nobody reads about or knows about, which is never online for public view. But, the transportation for young students, well that is something that they have been focused on for many board meetings, and a few years to cut costs. If they were this frugal when it came to the perks and benefits in the union contracts, we would not have over $160,000,000.00 in debt.

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Patrice Sidoione All That Salon

9:15 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

What is for too long out of control is the number of school boards...I came back to PA from a much larger populated state CA & they have nominal # of school districts & regions to handle NOT 500 or 300 Superintendants that earn what is it now with the increase??? $166,700.00 plus benefits??? Do you know the median salary in PA is $50K??? Where is the justification for these ad min salaries? What do they actually do in the way of education anyway???

Michael D Siegel

6:26 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

The state law requires all school districts to bus children- no matter how far and to any private schools- did you know that? Your tax monies are being spent to bus children to Bethlehem to catholic high schools or to Berks county. Now that is BS. We are sitting here arguing about 1/4 mile for busing kids for safety reasons when the state law should be changed now. Please EP residents talk to your state rep about changing the law. It is costing a hell of a lot of taxpayers money to bus children around a a three county area to private schools on my dime

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Private School Mom

8:23 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

Mr. Siegel,
You do realize that Private School parents in the East Penn School District pay SCHOOL TAXES just as you do. In addition to paying school taxes for a school district that we do not us we then pay tuition to provide our children with a better education. We do this without complaint. If I am reading your comments clearly you feel that even though we pay school taxes we are not entitled to ANY benefits. That is where I personally draw the line. Give me a rebate for the years I have paid school taxes and not utilized the bus service that I can by law use and do pay for in my tax bill. That option seems fair to me.
The money we as private school parents pay in school taxes entitles us to bus service by law and by the fact that we pay SCHOOL TAXES for schools that we do not use. It is not on "your dime" as educating the East Penn District children falls on my dime along with all the rest of the private school parents. So, I am going to write to our state representatives and our senators and ask for a private school reimbursement program. It is only fair, don't you agree?

Or better yet, all the private school parents in East Penn can register their children for Fall of 2013 in the school district. Talk about a budget problem! Classes are already over crowded now add in all the extra children whose parents pay taxes and are in private school! That is an even better idea!

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Matt L.

8:42 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

@Private school mom, as a supporter of school choice and competition I respect your choice to send your kids to a private school if you feel it's a better option for YOUR kids then the public school system. Every parent should be supported in making the choice thats best for their kids.

This however is not a private school vs. public school issue. It's busing is not a right issue PERIOD.

NO ONE not public, not private are ENTITLED to bus transportation. It's a privilege. It's ok with me that school taxes go to education programs at private schools. It should be a fair even amount. Let both have equal access to public funding, let them compete.

But busing mandate would bankrupt some districts. It's never been a right it's always been a entitlement. The 1.5 number isn't arbitrary it's the distance at which schools get reimbursed from the state.

Other states charge a per student fee to parents. PA should consider this. THAT would be fair. Use the bus pay for it. Everyone.

Private School Mom

8:56 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

@ Matt Private Schools get zero money from the state for anything. We have to write for grants. The issue is the 1.5 mile rule. If students are allowed to ride the bus over 1.5 miles in East Penn then private schools are included. End of story.

Willow is an exception. I have driven by several times at drop off and pick up and I would NOT want my child walking to or from that school.
Also this notion in previous comments about why do Charter School students get bus service? There parents pay taxes as well and if they are outside that 1.5 mile rule they get the service.
The notion of charging those residents whose children attend Willow more money to bus them is ridiculous and illegal. There is entirely too much traffic in that area. All it will take is one accident with one child and then all who are so adamant against busing can compare the price tags between a child's life and a bus ride.

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Matt L.

9:00 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

No one has to walk, they can drive and most likely will. Thats fine. I live on Main St. in Macungie. I used to live in Shepard Hills. VERY familiar with the area. Also used to live in Allentown near a walking school. Yes it gets crowded during drop off and pickup. So do 1000's of schools across the country every single day. People deal with it.

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Janet Persing

8:21 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013

"There is entirely too much traffic in that area" because the population has exploded since 2000. Willow Lane is in the midst of suburban developments, which means walking to school makes sense. Teach your child to cross the street safely. If you can't do that, yell at all of your fellow SUV Moms who are running over everyone else and speeding to taxi their kids to school. I'm sure you can do that!

Patrice Sidoione All That Salon

9:21 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013

I wonder if we all need to be reminded that whether you child goes to public or private school EDUCATION for these children who will be making policy when we are old & helpless like they are young & helpless now is imperative that we act with the greater good in mind...The children hear not enough money but salaries are high by any standard for PA...what amount of money will they vote to spend for the care of the elderly when it is their turn to make a budget???
Could we keep in mind that a budget is more than a measure of how we spend money...IT IS A MORAL DOCUMENT...what are we saying are our morals, ethics & human descency??? Do you know how disheartening this is to read???

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Patrice Sidoione All That Salon

4:46 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Janet Persing I am confused by your remark. I do not understand your meaning??? Really not being contrary...You remark leaves not room for the random accident which is ineviditable in this situation with young children ice, snow, rain, overcast, cold, etc. People in a rush not paying attention etc. DANGEROUS potential being created that simply does not have to be the case. I trust the impacted people can work something out.
I wonder if the overpaid already in many cases AD MIN people will reject their raises & apply that money to the busing...they did increase the budget by more than the cut of busing for the raises...????

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Garrett Rhoads

3:48 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Actually, yes. The administration claimed to have saved $60K on busing at Willow, but had the board vote the administrators a $75K raise just 8 weeks later. One must ask what their priorities really are. Judge for yourself.

taxed-enough

4:46 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Garrett, great comment, and very appropriate. Follow the money, and it will show you the priorities of the school board. The priorities are with the union members and administrators having raises, large salaries and generous benefits which are very costly, not with the students or the parents.

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Bob Guzzardi

6:13 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Good point, Garrett Rhoads It is hard to think of 5,6 and 7 year olds walking to school in this cold. The wam and comfortable administrators took the kids' bus money. Disgraceful.

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Bob Guzzardi

6:13 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013

Good point, Garrett Rhoads It is hard to think of 5,6 and 7 year olds walking to school in this cold. The wam and comfortable administrators took the kids' bus money!. Disgraceful

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Janet Persing

7:00 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

That is a ridiculous comment! What's disgraceful is for the rest of us to pay for empty busses running around picking up wussie kids. Boo, hoo...it's cold. It's winter, and you live here. Get used to it. If you wanted Florida, you should have moved there.

And, in case you haven't noticed, we have had nothing like winter for at least 6 years.

taxed-enough

10:40 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

The bus study is pretty clear. Nobody is asking for special treatment. However, currently, there are very, very few students in East Penn that live over .75 miles from an elementary school that actually are designated as walkers. It comes to only 41 students in the whole district if you add up every single elementary school walking students that are "walkers" that live between .75 and 1.5 miles from a school. It would cost nothing to bus these 41 students, since there is room on current buses. However, at Willow Lane, there are 341 students that live between .75 and 1.5 miles from the school. "Option #2" which is what it is called in the transportation study is clearly reasonable which would make .75 the new walking distance for the whole school district. The walking radius would be set at .75 miles for the whole district. Other school districts in our state have used .75 miles as a reasonable walking distance, and it is SOLELY at the discretion of the school board. Bacher is a fool with his comment about special treatment, or perhaps he did not bother to read the study, and what it said about "OPTION #2" which would be reasonable for the whole district, and was suggested by a parent. While 1.5 miles is absolutely too far, .75 walking radius is clearly reasonable, and other school districts have used this for a walking radius, this is a decision made by the school board, NOT THE STATE. http://www.eastpennsd.org/_pdfs/Transportation-Study-Presented-2-11-13.pdf

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Matt L.

10:56 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

.75 for whole district? Including those not walking? A commitment to make the Macungie schools walking? Wescosville? Ect. ect?

taxed-enough

11:31 am on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Sorry, but I don't understand your comment. I think "OPTION #2" means that .75 would be the maximum walking distance for the entire district, which is what some other school districts have decided upon. However, for roads labeled as dangerous roads, it is a case-by-case basis as I understand it. At least that is how I understand "OPTION #2". What is your understanding?

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JackL

9:39 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Janet Persing – Great comment, also if one of them could comprehend the order at a 4 way stop I might get out of my non SUV and applaud

Charter Schools aren’t public; they are pilfering money from the public system instead of stepping in and helping the public system. They are biased toward the founders, friends and relatives, THEN lottery…what ever happened to diversity? Have your Charter school, but do it with your own money, not by taking it from kids who can’t get in.

Kids today are wimps compared to when I was a kid. I rode my bike like a maniac, ripped through traffic and did wheelies through the stop signs, and that was the norm (well… I exaggerated, not all kids could do a wheelie) oh and I didn’t die one time.

When I was a kid, I actually liked walking to school when it snowed; somehow we even had snowball fights and didn’t slip into hypothermia on the way. It might be possible and I say MIGHT, for the kids today with their gortex boots, north face jacket and iTunes earmuffs to make it too.

It speaks volumes to the priorities of people today that this bus topic generates sooo much dialogue. One may think you would care more about trying to get teachers on a full time schedule to match their full time salary. ESPD can’t even muster a full week let alone a full year.

In the meantime be glad your school wasn’t in Waiting For Superman.

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JackL

9:42 pm on Saturday, February 23, 2013

Oh one more thing, after your kids come home with some dog doo on their shoes and it ends up all over the house…maybe you’ll start picking up the crap…or better yet...maybe one of the kids that realize they can walk...possibly even run will leave you a present burning on your porch.

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Janet Persing

4:14 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

Perhaps we can revisit the 4-way stop sign intersections--at both ends of Willow Elementary--that no one (from NY/NJ) knows how to navigate...and their kids are the ones in "danger" from their fellow NY/NJ. And I won't even address litter!
Thanks for bringing your lifestyle to us. Now you have to live in it.

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Janet Persing

4:15 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013

Unfortunately, so do we, the natives. So, please clean up your mouth, act, and behavior. Quit whining and be responsible for your progeny. Teach them properly and the rest of civil society won't have a problem.

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