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Take our Poll: Do you Favor a Zero-Tax East Penn Budget?

The 2012-2013 East Penn School District Budget approved Monday night includes a 1.9 percent tax hike, but there were other zero-tax options on the table.

 

The East Penn Board of School Directors approved Monday night a preliminary final 2012-2013 budget that includes a 1.89 percent tax hike in a 5-4 vote that followed, what the Express-Times describes as “hours of, at times, acrimonious discussion.”

The dissenting votes in the end came from Directors Lynn Donches, Rebecca Heid, Michael Policano and Julian Stolz. Donches, Heid and Stolz each proposed amended versions of the administration’s proposed budget that failed to gain traction during the meeting.

Donches proposed a spending plan with no tax increase, stating that East Penn should be spending more of the district's fund balance to bridge the budget gap.

Heid suggested using a $1,250,294 construction reimbursement from the state instead of depleting the fund balance to offset 2012-13 taxes. That money is currently slated for a 2013-14 pension payment.

Stolz advocated a budget plan that combined aspects of Donches' and Heid's proposals.

All three proposals failed before the administration's proposed budget was ultimately approved.

East Penn will vote on the final budget for 2012-2013 on June 25. The state of Pennsylvania mandates that final school budgets be adopted by June 30.

  • What do you think about the proposed final 2012-2013 East Penn budget?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • It's fine. A 1.9 percent tax increase is a small price to pay for a quality education.
        149 (44%)
    • It stinks. Any tax hike is too much. Period.
        120 (35%)
    • I'm not sure. There were options brought up at Monday night's school board meeting that need to be explored further.
        65 (19%)
    Total votes: 334
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: 2012-2013 Budget and East Penn School District

Kate Kieres

7:54 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Such a small increase is a small price to pay, considering that the board and administration will not have to make deep program or staff cuts to achieve it. I was at the meeting on Monday and glad to see that there were some parents who spoke in favor of the modest increase. A quality education system is the cornerstone of our community and leads to a higher quality of life (along with higher property values). I'm glad to pay it.

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Robert Sentner

8:15 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Bingo.... lets not do something to help the kids or tax payers lets pad our pension...... just wait till you see whats coming. Disgusting.... rememeber its all about the kids!
And I have no problem with the tax increase if it was used for educating our kids not padding there rediculous DEFINED BENIFIT pension.

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LMTnative

8:26 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Look into the history of the PSERS system. The problem wasn't created by the teachers, it was created by Harrisburg. When the program was started it was funded equally by teachers, school districts, and the state. When the stock market was booming and the pension fund appeared well funded the state eliminated their copayment and reduced the school districts copay. Now that the stock market crashed and they have to resume paying their fair share everyone is blaming the teachers. The teachers are the only ones who continued paying their fair share through good times and bad,

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truth seeker

8:39 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Sentner knows this LMTnative. He is a politician who likes to play the same kind of games. Also keep in mind that it was a GOP stacked PA state government who made the terrible decisions in 2001 which has led to this debacle. However, it's really fashionable to blame teachers.

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Robert Sentner

9:18 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

I really don't care who came up with psers, its going to be a crushing blow to the tax payers and surely doesn't do a thing for educating the children. There are so many problems facing this school district and some are not self inflicted LMT' s rediculous planning , NIZ it's going to impact EPSD and nobody knows to what extent, the over crowding of schools ( not a fault of the teachers and needing more schools, Unfunded mandates like Cyber schools, Busing, and I am sure a host of other things that I am not aware of. Poor parenting again not a fault of EPSD, And the pension bomb, I don't care who came up with it, it's rediculous and going to bankrupt some school districts. It's the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about and it feeds on itself , this is not a cut on teachers if we need them we should hire them all I am saying is you can not keep raising taxes and expect the citizens not to be enraged. Maybe we need to find another way to fund our schools instead of on property owner's backs. So thruth seeker I am not blaming the teachers I am blaming whoever came up with it. My question is if everyone knows what a disaster this is, why is no one doing anything about it ??? If any of us ran our business like this we would be bankrupt in a couple years. some of my best memories in life involve past teachers, they shape and mold the children and leaders of the future.

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Robert Sentner

9:18 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

LMT and truth seeker, I wasn't blaming the teachers one bit, And I take calling me a politician a personal insult, I am as far from a politician as you can get. I am 100% for being fiscally responsible. And not in bed nor have I ever been with anyone, every decision I make is 110% what I think is best for the community. Might not be best for a particular group or person but I have the whole community in mind when I make a decision.

LMTnative

8:22 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

I don't have a problem with paying higher taxes as long as the money is being used for true educational expenses. My 2nd grader is in a class of 32 students which is absurd. They need to hire more teachers to alleviate the overcrowding. You can't keep building more houses and not hire additional teachers. Maybe King David should share some of his riches earned off the backs of the East Penn taxpayers? That will never happen. In stead he wants to build more houses and place an even greater burden on the East Penn taxpayers.

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truth seeker

8:36 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Beware of promises of no cuts needed yet we can refund your taxes. This is not fiscally prudent and would kill the district in future years with massive cuts and massive tax raises. There is no magic fairy dust. This kind of thing is political not real!

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Chandler

8:58 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Someone who agrees that 1.9 is a small price to pay remind of a frog in boiling water. They have you right where they want you and there will be no end to the increases.

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Lower Mac Resident

9:10 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

You got that right....a little increase here, a little increase there, it all adds up, and I'm tired of constantly having to bend over for this district, it's time they start thinking of the community and thinking more fiscally responsible

taxed-enough

9:09 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Who ever wrote this poll should really be ashamed of themselves for giving three terrible possible answers, and no answer that accurately reflects the views of fiscal conservatives in the area. Those of us who favor stopping tax increases are not against any property tax increases. We are against property tax hikes when the district wastes they tax dollars by choosing to pay much higher wages than what can be earned in the private sector. Just one example, we have about 83 janitors working for our school district that are union workers and are paid a MUCH higher wage than the janitors who would work at a local business, for instance. Citizens have suggested at board meetings that we outsource jobs like janitors to save money that could be better spend on education. Dr. Seidenberger opposed this since he said that janitors are citizens who need these high paying jobs. Well, unfortunately, our school was not created with the purpose of creating high paying jobs that pay more than what is earned in the private sector. And, he favored renewing the janitor union contracts which was done. Now, the school board knows that we are clearly paying the janitors much more than they could earn in the private sector, and this excessive waste of money is straining what could be spend on education. This waste of tax money is why we do not want to pay more tax money until they cut out the waste that is really hurting education and class sizes. This poll gives three false choices.

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Lower Mac Resident

9:12 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Thank you "taxed-enough" for the further enlightenment that these articles do not give us.....

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Mariella Savidge

9:29 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

What would be your suggestion for a more valid voting option? It sounds as if you would prefer to explore other options including the outsourcing of some services? Help us make this better!

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taxed-enough

12:58 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Thank you for asking. How about an option like this..... "No more tax increases until the school board provides a DETAILED budget online including all details for expenditures?" ......This detailed budget already exists, but they won't put it online (cost for overtime, cost for extra work for extra pay, cost for cell phones paid by the school district, cost for optional after-school-clubs, cost optional summer school, cost for things like ski club, cost for flying personnel overseas and to China, cost for adult education for people over the age of 18 who are not students for things like cooking classes, cost for janitorial work, cost for maintenance vehicles, cost for after-school activity buses, etc. If we knew exactly where the money was spent, it would address many concerns. However, there is no detailed budget online. Our district has placed the report cards of every student online including details like every missed and completed homework assignment for parents to access, but we can not put the detailed annual budget online to show exactly where we spend $125,000,000.00.

Kate Kieres

9:44 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

When users register on PATCH and othet news outlets, they are asked to provide their full names. Many who comment choose not to do so. I believe that anonymous commenting negatively affects the discourse. If you have an opinion, you should freely express it. However I feel strongly that your real name should be attached.

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Lower Mac Resident

12:20 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

http://lowermacungie.patch.com/articles/emmaus-gop-activists-sue-democratic-candidate
Here is a very good reason why people would prefer to NOT use their real names, there are some psycho people out there

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Unum e Pluribus

7:32 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

If your first full name is Katherine, then please identify yourself as one of the assistant principals at Emmaus High School. It is called full disclosure. All teachers and administrators are online at this web site.
http://www.openpagov.org/k12_payroll.asp

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Steve Godusky

7:18 pm on Thursday, December 6, 2012

Great comment. These people like to make comments but hide behind screen names, how cowardly.

Giovanni Landi

11:47 am on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

There is nothing magical about the proposal with a zero tax increase. The data supplied by the administration shows that the ending fund balance has been increasing from the 2007-2008 budget to 2010-2011 budget. The actual increase is from $7,806,024 to $11,809,946 and our estimates show the final ending fund balance for this year (2011-2012) will be close to $13,000,000. The 5% budgetary reserve is less than $6,000,000, which means at the end of this fiscal year the excess fund balance will be close to $7,000,000. The proposal made by Mrs. Donches was to take $1,400,000 from this excess fund balance and use it to offset this year's tax increase and give the tax payers a break since our taxes have been increasing every year. The proposed budget by the administration would remain untouched, the only cuts to the budget were made by the administration, and those cuts were supported by the "pro-education" school board directors when they voted to approve the budget. Maybe the poll question should be "Who on the board is really pro-education?"

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ted.dobracki

1:41 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

How does this fit with the part of the gambling law that prohibits school districts from raising taxes when certain portions of their reserves and fund balances are more than 8%?

BTW, I'm in favor of a decent reserve of 5%, but also caution that trying to get rid of a reserve that is too high needs to be done carefully. Since it is one time money, I wouldn't spend more than the amount I would plan to raise taxes the next year. In other words, expect the next years tax increase to be doubled if you spend that much of the reserve. Got to meter it out carefully. If you don't, what happened in the 1990 budget could happen again.

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Giovanni Landi

2:17 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

Good points Ted. From what I understand the law prohibiting tax increases when reserves are more than 8% of expenditures only applies to the budgeting phase. That means if the beginning fund balance is underestimated, the revenues are under estimated, and the expenditures are overestimated the ending reserve funds will be under the 8% limit. For example based on the information released by the EPSD it appears that the 2010-2011 budgeted ending committed fund balance was budgeted as $3,412 but the actual ending uncommitted fund balance was $11,809,946.

I also agree with your statement that the excess funds need to be spent down carefully. One of the concerns raised by a school board director opposed to the tax cut was if they cut taxes this year they may not be able to raise your taxes enough next year. This is because a large tax increase would need to go on a referendum. A possible solution might be to disperse the excess funds as a tax credit or refund depending on how much it would cost.

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truth seeker

2:30 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

I believe the 2nd part of Ted's point is correct. It would feel great to give a tax return but you must consider the future impact. I encourage folks to read the East Penn Press article on the board meeting as it gives a fairly good explanation.

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Giovanni Landi

2:10 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

truth seeker – I wouldn't recommend people read the East Penn Press article. It appears that it contains mistakes. For example Mr. Stoltz never said to take $1.45 million out of the general fund to prevent the tax increase and the PlanCon money was only $1.25 million, not $12 million as the article states. The articles on Patch do a much better job of explaining the information also WFMZ had a very good article. http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-lehighvalley/East-Penn-battles-over-proposed-budget/-/132502/13393104/-/roh7yh/-/

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ted.dobracki

11:32 pm on Thursday, December 6, 2012

@giovanni - good point about rebating excess fund balance. the school board wouldn't need to cut taxes to do that which could put them behind the eight-ball due to the index limitation, which might not allow them to catch back up the next year. In fact, the board could raise taxes by the index amount to keep revenue matched with spending and simultaneously rebate the excess fund balance, if it was deemed to be too high. Two separate transactions, but put it all on he same bill, so it doesn't cost anything to execute, like mailing a rebate check would.

Indeed, the Lehigh COunty executive made a very similar proposal in his initial budget proposal during the summer. He called it an expiring tax credit. See:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2012/08/lehigh_county_no_tax_increase.html

Kevin Kelly

8:11 pm on Wednesday, May 16, 2012

I didn't see an option for increasing the budget to include reducing class size, providing for full day kindergarten, and hiring more teachers. I believe that we are a great district (that's why I moved here from Allentown 4 years ago - for my kids' education), but that we should strive to be the BEST district in the state. My daughter starts kindergarten in the fall, I feel confident that she will have a great education in East Penn. I still will advocate for an even better one.

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truth seeker

9:42 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Kevin I think your point is well taken. Unfortunately our school district is probably going to see increased class sizes in the forseeable future. Let us pray for a day this turns around. To control costs teachers who retire are not being replaced in many cases.

Chuck Ballard

1:23 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Nothing 'magical' but nothing real either, like using the false term 'excess funds'. State law does not permit school districts to maintain uncommited reserves of greater than 8%. That is checked by state and local auditors every year. Fund balance is not a revenue stream. To have your budget in balance, you have to have tax revenue equal expenses on a continuing basis, and not try to use one-time funds to plug holes. If you do that, at some point, you run out of one -time funds, and then you are in a revenue hole you can't get out of because you won't be able to raise taxes high enough because of the referendum restrictions, to match the expenses with revenue. (Only 1 in 12 Act 1 referendums have passed in Pennsylvania, which is why anti-tax people are so fond of them). If you want your taxes cut, you will have to get a majority of voters to agree on what programs and services they want CUT. Inflation has averaged 3% for the past 150 years. That means it costs on average 3% more to do the EXACT SAME JOB next year. Aside from enrollment growth, that is exactly why taxes generally go up every year. The only way to get lower taxes is to do less, and that means cutting something. The financial magicians with their 'tax reduction with no cuts' illusions need to man and woman up and tell the public exactly what they would cut to achieve their goals, not try to sell cowardly snake-oil about 'excess funds' being 'available' to do their dirty work without pain.

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truth seeker

6:22 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

I think one of the key words here is auditor. The budget was recenlty audited and given high marks. I think any diretors or members of the public who think piles of money are laying around need to contact that auditor and ask him why he is not telling the truth because in reality that is what you are saying. This has to do with prudent budgeting as opposed to political pandering. I loathe to think that people are playing politics with the education of our children but it is not hard to see that this is all about election 2013 and nothing else.

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LMTnative

8:28 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Mr. Ballard thank you for addressing the reserve fund balance issue. Now will you please explain what you and the board are doing to reduce the exorbitant class sizes? 32 students in a second grade classroom are completely unacceptable! This especially troublesome as district staff have indicated there are currently no plans to alleviate this situation for the fall. It’s time to make the education of our children the first and foremost priority of the school board.

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ted.dobracki

9:12 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Chuck, hope this helps you. I'm by no means advocating this (as you might see from my posting at another recent article), but a school district can function with a very low reserve/fund balance. The 5% that EPSD using recently is reasonable. But, large sudden changes in the fund balances are even worse than having a low fund balance.

To wit, you might recall the situation for the first budget that I had to deal with during my tenure on the board more than twenty years ago. For 1990-91, the superintendent proposed a budget with about a 28% property tax increase because in the year before, he and the Rust board spent down the fund balance from over $1.2 million (about 4% of the budget) to less than $250,000 (less than 1%). Basically what happened was that spending was increasing at the rate of over 4 mils per year, and in one year, EPSD needed to make up for two years of increases never mind replenishing the fund balance. We ended with, I think a 22% tax increase that year, and a 10% tax increase the next year (limited by the last reassessment), and it took several years to get the balance above $250,000. We functioned reasonably well with a 1% reserve for most of 89-93.

The board you call call the CEPTA board is the group that had to suffer through this problem and cured it, setting the stage for the facility improvements that followed later.

I'm not advocating for a 1% balance today - 5% seeems reasonable, but if it's higher, it should be metered out very carefully.

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Giovanni Landi

11:25 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Mr. Ballard – saying that there is nothing real about the extra six million dollars the school district has collected is disrespectful to the tax payer. It was real when it left my pocket and it's really sitting in the district bank account. Calling people names like delusional and snake oil salesmen doesn't make what we are saying untrue. It's embarrassing for me to see the president of the school board using insults and bullying instead of intellectual arguments to make his points.
You talk about revenue and expenses, well here are the numbers showing the difference between revenues and expenses: 2002/2003 + 466,158; 2003/2004 -533,678; 2004/2005 -907,750; 2005/2006 +993,701; 2006/2007 +941,254; 2007/2008 -237,596; 2008/2009 +1,907,410; 2009/2010 +310,927; 2010/2011 +1,690,326; Net increase in fund balance of $4,630,752 over the past nine years. This is in addition to the 5% budgetary reserve. No snake oil, just real money adding up. Every year when I find I overpaid my federal taxes I get a tax refund. The same thing that causes me to get a refund from the federal government is happening here, we are overpaying some years and the money is adding up. Why is it wrong to say this excess money should be given back? I have a question for all the people who think EPSD should keep the excess funds. Do you tell the federal government to keep your tax refund? If you don't and you request your tax refund, why can EPSD keep your overpayment?

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Giovanni Landi

11:25 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

I'm a realist; I know if you manage the budget properly eventually you reach a point where tax increases will be required to keep up with increased expenditures. All I'm saying is if the money is there, and in this case it appears that it is, give the taxpayers a break. Don't raise my taxes if it's not immediately needed.
As far as your constant blaming of inflation, I wonder if you really know what you are talking about. The cause of inflation is an increase in money supply without an equal increase in productivity. It is caused because the federal government prints money to cover their big government spending. It is not the reason EPSD needs to raise taxes every year. Inflation doesn't cause salaries and pension costs to go up. I'm still studying the pension issue, but the salaries are definitely the fault of the board.
If anyone wants to see the meeting or the handouts Mrs. Donches presented they are available at http://epcat.us/

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truth seeker

11:48 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Giovanni if you really believe their is excess money laying around please explain why the auditor did not address this. Perhaps a request can be made for him to come back in and assess your claims. Maybe he can at least send in a letter or a brief. This assumes of course that your claims are not purely political in nature. By the way, somebody told me once that you tried to falsely claim the borough of Emmaus had no money to plow snow off the streets to help your quest for office in the election. Is that true by any chance? Also, what is your opinion of this saying: One is entilted to their own opinions but not their own facts?

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ted.dobracki

12:56 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

@ts - The auditor would have little to say because all of the numbers for fund balance and reserve are out in the open and the differences people have here are more a matter of philosophy than anything else. It is very debatable whether the right size is 3% or 5% or 8%. Indeed there might not even be a right size! My point here now and before is once you have a decent balance, be very careful how you use it.

As an aside, people in general are making to much avout the audit. A good part of the audit is to make sure that proper administrative controls are in place to make sure that no one has the hands in the till. They don't check every transaction, rather they check procedures and a small sample, and come up with conclusions that there aren't any red flags. Usually auditors are experienced and thorough enough to know where to look for problems. Sometimes they're not, ala the LMT problems a few years back. None of this is to suggest that there is a problem at EPSD. Passing an audit with few comments or recommendations is alway a good sign that everyone is doing there job right, but then, that is also an expecation.

Finally, most audits won't say too much about fund balance, unless it was negative. I mentioned before about the balance that fell from 4% to 1% in the 89-90 budget that was passed right before I was elected, and the audits that came out after that said little. I doubt that they would complain about exceeding 8%, either, since the law there is murky.

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Giovanni Landi

1:52 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

truth seeker – Please go look at the budget for yourself. The money is accounted for right there in the fund balance. The administration said it was there; all I did was look and point it out. The auditor also agreed it was there, you referenced the audit in a previous post. Didn't you read what it said?
My claims are not "political in nature". I am asking a simple question. When the ending fund balance significantly exceeds the budgetary reserve why don't we use those excess funds to avoid a tax increase? No cuts, no magic, no blaming teachers, just use the excess to offset the tax increase.
As far as Emmaus goes, they shouldn't have any trouble paying for snow removal. They raised our taxes $50,000 and then posted a surplus 2 weeks later of almost $550,000.
Now I ask you your opinion of the saying - One is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts?
Please live up to your screen name.

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truth seeker

3:02 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

To use this money would be a one time feel good measure that would put future budgets at great risk. I see the numbers just as well as you do. The difference is that you want to use it as if it is just extra stuff laying around. Perhaps what one might call a slush fund. The East Penn Press give a good explanation as to why it cannot be used as you are sugesting. I'm saying that the auditor most likely would have mentioned that the district had a large excess that it did not need from year to year if that was the case. I really think you guys should bring him in on this. That way we could be sure it is not political.

ron

10:03 am on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Directors Donches, Heid, Policano and Stolz need to tell people what services they would cut to keep taxes the same or lower them.

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Robert Sentner

1:19 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Townships are in the same predicament, unfunded mandates and no money to pay them, the difference is PSATS is pro active with this, why isn't the teachers union fighting some of these unrealistic, unfunded mandates ???? Upper Milford Township has also inacted a new pension plan that for new hires is not a defined benefit plan, why can't the teachers union fight for something like that ???? why because they don't want to thats why. And please don't blame it on the state or federal governement, everyone knows the teachers union is in there back pockets both republican and democratic. It's all a bunch of BS this is no cut against teachers just there crooked union

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truth seeker

1:39 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Rob if unions controlled the state government then kindly explain all the cuts to educaton from the state. Unions can lobby just like business interests, oil companies, environmental groups, corporations etc. However, they don't control the government or the pension system. Unions do not control the PESERS board. You don't like the teachers union that's fine. Please don't try to imagine things that are not true. If you feel I'm wrong provide some evidence.

Robert Sentner

1:54 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

TS there is no possible way to prove this, BUT everyone knows this. The system is so broken and non partisan that I don't know how you fix it. All I am saying is that I am sure if one of the largest if not the largest union put there mind to it they could get some things done. $33,615,766 contribution to non republican campaigns $ 0 to republican from 1989 to 2012. So the cuts from the republicans is a payback. thats why I am saying the system is so broken. how much of tarp went to teachers pension fund how many BILLION thats alot of zero's from a democratic president. And I am not a republican, democrat or anything. I am just fed up with the total disregard for my tax $$$$'s remember its all about the kids. HOG WASH

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truth seeker

2:56 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Not sure where your numbers are coming from but in PA the teahcers union has given to both parties although more to Dems. from what I understand. The pension mess is serious. In 2010 the legislature did some things to help the situation. They overturned the idiotic decisions of the Ridge Administration which will help. The economy improving the investment returns will also help. However, the system that was used from 2001-2010 is the problem and that cannot just be undone. The system can be changed for new teachers being hired but that won't make much difference in the near future. Sorry but that is the truth. No amount of lobbying from a union or anybody else can change these facts. This very issue was actually ruled on not long ago in the courts. They can't just undo the pension arrangement from those years I mentioned.

Thomas J Boyko

7:38 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

what with the 19% hike in county and borough taxes, along with 4% in medicare and now 1.9% in school tax.... and oh yes, the cost of gasoline .... they tell us to save for the golden years ...tell me for what... so they can pick the seniors pockets to the grave
when was the last time anyone besides maybe a an East Penn school board member got that much

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Chuck Ballard

1:13 am on Friday, May 18, 2012

Well, since school board members are unpaid volunteers, and some of us are senior citizens on fixed incomes, they got nothing either. Any senior citizen who qualifies for the state property tax and rent rebate program can get another matching amount from the East Penn District by applying for it through the business office. Forms are also usually stocked at tax collector's offices. That is a program that we have had for years, and it is a program we are not required to have. Over 400 deserving senior citizens took part in the program last year. I agree that property taxes are regressive, but it is up to the legislature to do something about that. School boards have no choice in the matter.

Steve Godusky

8:43 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

All I can say is remember the 5 Board members that are voting down any chance of a zero percent tax increase. They need to go. They are the most arrogant people thinking that there are no cuts to be made. I wish I had a 10 million dollar balance in my checkbook that I refuse to spend. Get rid of these incapable people drawing the out of towners that are coming here to avoid their hight taxes to our school district and making taxes rise.

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Chuck Ballard

1:23 am on Friday, May 18, 2012

Lots of cuts have been made. For the first time in the history of the East Penn School District, the budget last year was less than what was spent the year before. The problem is, there aren't enough cuts legally available without cutting programs, to make a zero tax increase possible. You want a zero increase, you come out and say what programs you want to cut out, and defend those cuts in public. Don't point to prudent reserves and say that one time available money should be used to artificially reduce tax rates. The only way to lower taxes is to cut expenses to the point where revenue matches expenses. That only works short term, because despite what Mr. Landi says his definition of inflation is, it is a fact of life and has been operating in the US for over 150 years, averaging 3% for that WHOLE time. At some point, it has to catch up with you, no matter what you do, and taxes will go up (again).

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Giovanni Landi

11:45 am on Friday, May 18, 2012

Mr. Ballard – It may be the first time in EPSD history that the budget was less than the previous year, however if my projections are correct the district's expenditures will be $2 million more this year than last. Even with this increase in spending it appears the district will add approximately $1.5 million to the ending fund balance, and that doesn't include the additional $1.25 million PLANCON money that came in. Makes you wonder if the preliminary budget is the only budget not worth the paper it's printed on.

I'm glad to see that you are finally admitting that the excess fund balance exists. Now it's called "prudent reserves". I guess one man's "prudent reserves" are another man's "excess funds". Maybe the difference is whether you are the person who collects the "prudent reserves" or the person paying the "excess funds".

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Giovanni Landi

11:46 am on Friday, May 18, 2012

The taxpayers agree with the board that we should have prudent reserves. The state recommends 5% and so does the board. I have no issue with a 5% reserve, I think that's good planning to have this reserve, but if the ending fund balance exceeds 5% then I think these additional funds should be put towards the next year's tax increase, and if it zeros out the tax increase then that’s great for the taxpayer. It may mean we overpaid the year before, but since it offset a current tax increase it will balance out. If in the following year revenues or expenditures fluctuate and we spend some of the 5% budgetary reserve I would expect my taxes to increase enough to cover replenishing the spent funds. If you don't raise my taxes on surplus years then I trust that you are only raising my taxes because you need to. However, when you have a surplus for 6 out the last 9 years and you continue to raise my taxes anyway I start to wonder if it is necessary or if it's the only way you know how to make a budget.

My definition of inflation is the same as yours. I'm just pointing out the cause. I have done a lot of reading on this subject and recommend a terrific essay at the Ludwig von Mises Institute by Murray N. Rothbard http://mises.org/daily/3127

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truth seeker

2:37 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

Giovanni and others who agree that we can use this supposed extra money in the budget to have a large tax giveback: If what you say is true than you must believe that 5 voters on the board would rather not replace retiring teachers and raise taxes 1.9% (or whatever the number gets down to). Both of these decisions are unpopular and one leads to larger class sizes which nobody wants. If the extra money exists or has existed for years as you claim, what would be the possible motivation to hold onto the money?

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Giovanni Landi

4:16 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

truth seeker – That's a very good question and honestly I don't have an answer for you. I don't think it's for nefarious reasons or because they don't care about education. Maybe they didn't do the research like we did; maybe they just trust the administration (a little too much). Maybe they believe all the scare tactics that are used to paint a doom and gloom scenario if they don't follow the superintendant's recommendations. Parents are worried their kids won't get a good education, and property owners are concerned that their property values will drop, so out of fear they believe the worst. The media also provides cover for them by saying things like "siphoning money out of the fund balance" instead of "spending down the excess taxes collected to the required 5% budgetary reserve" (sometimes perception is reality) or not presenting both sides of the story for example the East Penn Press article you mentioned above quoted Mr. Ballard, but no counter points from Mrs. Donches were included. That's about as fair and balanced as Fox News.

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Giovanni Landi

4:16 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

We all want what's best for both the kids and taxpayers. It's a difficult balancing act, but I would rather have seen a teacher added and class sizes decreased than to have the excess fund balance continue to grow. And speaking of teachers, I'm bothered by the constant blaming of teachers. I can't speak for all the teachers in the district, but the teachers my children have had are fantastic and my kids love them. I don't think it's fair that the teachers took a pay freeze to help "save" this year's budget and now it looks like there will be another surplus. I would be mad if my company claimed times were tough, asked me to take a pay freeze and then posted a profit for the year. But for some reason the teachers keep supporting them.

Maybe it's time to think outside the box. We know young kids benefit from smaller class sizes and colleges pack a lot of students into lecture halls. Maybe we should decrease the class sizes at the elementary schools by taking teachers from the high school. This would benefit the young kids while preparing the juniors and seniors for the type of learning they will be expected to do in college.

Steve Godusky

8:47 pm on Thursday, May 17, 2012

Please do not accept any more comments from people that are too cowardly to leave their real name. If you can not reveal yourself don't reply.

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Robert Sentner

3:21 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

http://www.pionline.com/article/20120405/REG/120409997/catastrophe-bonds-offer-diversification-but-a-lot-of-risk-too
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2010/12/pension_law_leaves_pennsylvani.html
2 great articles.....enjoy and wonder what will happen to your taxes in the near future
very very interesting, just think they keep raising taxes to keep there defined benefit pension going than invest is stuff like this.....unreal

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Ronald Weaver

11:16 pm on Friday, May 18, 2012

I am sure all governmental levels will be glad to accept checks from people that advocate higher taxes. This is a simple solution that would not work for an obvious reason.

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Chuck Ballard

2:08 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012

No matter how many times you tell these people that an 'excess' fund balance does not exist, they won't listen. A perfect example of confirmation bias, they won't accept any information that doesn't support what they believe. First of all, something is 'excess' if it is not needed to support the function of the business. BOTH a designated 5% that is always there for emergencies AND a 5% amount to cover errors in estimating revenue or expenses are needed to run a fiscally prudent operation, as evidenced by the commentaries that Standard and Poors and Moodys rating services have made about the District's fiscal policies over the past 20 years. Just because someone wants to declare something 'excess' doesn't make it so. Part of the fund balance IS being used this year to reduce the tax increase, but not ALL of it as Mr. Landi advocates. That is still dangerous, because the fund balance is NOT a continuous stream of revenue, but money that can only be used one time and then it is gone forever. What part of 'revenue must match expenses' don't you understand Mr. Landi? If you cut tax rates with one time money, the next year, you do not have that money, and you are in the hole for revenue for the amount of inflation PLUS the amount of one time money you used to plug the revenue hole. The usual scenario is that you end up having to increase taxes DOUBLE the amount you would have done to match inflation, because you didn't do it the previous year. Duh!

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Ronald Weaver

6:57 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012

Chuck.. a very difficult problem with many good points on both sides of this issue with much emotions expressed by concerned tax payers, some not being as able to experience an increase in their taxes for many different reasons. I believe most citizens including myself feel by throwing more money at a problem does not solve the long term problems alone but prolongs the solution to a financial problem. It is unfortunate that our society and government looks at their own short term benefit than being honest and look at a solution that has a more long term solution considering all sides of a financial issue. More williness to be transparent on how tax payer money is spent and a williness to take efforts to cut costs that may be painful to many, no pain no gain. Regardless of increase costs of operating a school district, their is a limit of what many tax payers can pay. A difficult problem to balance and satisfy all sides of this issue need I say.

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for real

7:31 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012

As a fical conservative who tends to vote Republican I do not like to see taxes go up. I want to see all increases kept to a minimum; and if they happen I prefer them to be at the local level where government tends to be more responsive. I do not subscribe to this new right wing nonsense that no taxes can ever be raised. My wife and I came to this area in part because of the high quality education in East Penn. I have a nephew in the district and he and his parents love what they see and I here a lot of that from my neighbors as well. Looking at the school board notes and reading the media tells me that EP has worked hard to keep costs down. I hope to add some of my own children to this district if the all mightly blesses us. What I ask is that quality of the schools stay high and any tax increases stay low. That I can live with. The recent wage concessions, energy savings, not replacing some staff as they retire tells me this district is making that effort. I also look around and see many other districts raising taxes higher and in some cases much higher. I think we should be greatful for what we have here and I do not trust those that subscribe to Grover Norquist types of approaches to all government.

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Kevin Kelly

1:25 pm on Saturday, May 19, 2012

Thanks for real, that seems very reasonable.

Ronald Weaver

10:34 am on Saturday, May 19, 2012

I feel that our nations financial problems will not be solved because of the political arena. I am a realist, we will have to be forced to do later what we cannot do now. It is just a matter of time. Hopefully people of different interests and views will be willing to compromise on BOTH sides of the issues, this is very unlightly with the general public not understanding the implications of what politicians preach to get elected. They differ just to differ, this attitude will only lead to failure. It is all about votes, if only we could put a price tag on the money wastefully spend to buy votes. (both sides)

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Chris Donatelli

9:53 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Mr. Ballard,
Your attitude in your comments is "Elitist"! It is my understanding you would not even consider a motion to investigate the possibility of no budget increase. The tax base is losing money and you don't even consider their concern. Let's put it up for a referendum; let the people decide!

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taxed-enough

11:57 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Chris, Thank you for your comment. Referendum would be the best way to handle these problems, by letting voters decide. Nice comment.

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for real

12:13 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Agreed tax enough. I also think we should have a referendum on military spending, prescription drug plan for seniors, to extend or not extend the bush tax cuts, foreign aide to Pakistan, Corporate tax cuts in the state budget, Cyber school funding, privitization of the liquor industry, How much we need to pay into the NIZ, etc.

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Chuck Ballard

12:30 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Sorry you feel speaking the truth is elitist. Over my time on the school board, I have voted 3 times for zero increase budgets, when the expenses were balanced with the revenues. I have also stated time and time again that one-time revenues should only be used for one-time expenditures. Using one-time money, especially one-time money that isn't really available, to balance a budget is dangerous, and in the case of the proposals made so far by EPCAT or CEPTA, whatever they are trying to call themselves these days, just plain stupid. I'm not going to make stupid decisions just to make someone politically happy. If you want a zero tax increase budget, put your money where your mouth is and propose what programs you want cut to achieve that. And don't start with sports, or claim that 'Taj Mahal' stadiums are something that would achieve that goal. Less than 1% of the budget is spent on such things. You need to cut 2-3%, or more. That means you have to cut some educational program that will cause pain to someone else, and you need to man-up and be willing to tell that person that they are not going to get the services they got next year because you do not want to see any tax increase. Don't talk about seniors losing their homes either, because East Penn provides for deserving low income seniors by providing a matching tax rebate meaning they get TWICE what the state gives them back in real estate tax rebates. Or just admit you don't want to be paying anything.

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Giovanni Landi

12:42 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Mr. Ballard

If you think one time funds shouldn't be used to balance the budget then why did you approve a budget that uses 4 million dollars of one time funds to balance the budget? Why didn't you give the superintendent the same lecture you just gave us since that's exactly what he proposed? Shouldn't you be instructing the superintendent that the 4 million dollars needs to be raised through a tax increase not from the surplus?

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Chuck Ballard

1:07 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Neither I, nor any individual member of the board, 'instructs the superintendent'. A board vote tells the superintendent what to do. I made my comment that using 4.1 million was dangerous. Using more of the fund balance than that would be suicidal. I was also quoted on that comment in the news also. Using one-time funds other than the fund balance to do anything with the budget is just plain stupid. The final budget hasn't been proposed or voted upon yet. You may have to live with danger. You don't have to live with stupidity.

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ted.dobracki

8:32 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

I don't really believe that the administration is proposing a budget that plan would spend $4 million of the fund balance, or that the school board would approve such foolishness. At the May school board meeting, Mr. Alan Earnshaw said that they are planning the $10 million balance (a one-time resource) in less than 3 years, and I read in the paper that the superintendent echoed with similar remarks at the first June meeting. If true, that in itself would be disasterous and suicidal.

But that is exactly what is in the budget. In fact, it could be worse if they need to spend any of the reserve. But, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE REAL PLAN. There's more to this than meets the eye. After all, the budget approved last year (for the school year now ending) also had an alleged $3+ million dollar deficit, and the one before that had a $2+ million deficit, even if none of the $5+ million of the reserve was spent in either year. Has EPSD really been spending down the fund balance every year? If so, it would all be gone by now! It isn't. EPSD projects a $10 million begining balance this year, even though last years budget showed ending with only $0.02 millionalong with a $5 million reserve. How is that happening?

One can only conclude that it's doubtful that any of the stated $4 million deficit will be spent next year. Nor will any of the official $6 million reserve be spent, either, since it is rarely touched.

for real

11:00 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Look around Chris:

Parkland 3.67% tax increase http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2012/06/parkland_school_board_oks_tax.html

Some things Parkland did: Freezing teachers’ salaries, using more than $3 million in cash reserves and cutting staff were just a few of numerous steps taken to minimize the tax increase -http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-lehighvalley/No-public-outcry-as-Parkland-board-approves-3-67-percent-tax-increase/-/132502/15167026/-/1hi81w/-/index.html

Easton 2.2% tax raise http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/easton/index.ssf/2012/05/easton_area_school_board_passs.html

To balance to the budget, the district raised taxes, cut staff and pulled $1.5 million from its reserves. Programs were not cut, but Cheston Elementary School’s full-day kindergarten will now be half-day. Staff cuts include 49 teachers, 31 full-time support staff positions, 21 part-time support staff positions, and one in-school police officer cut through attrition

Salisbury 4% tax raise http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/lehigh-county/index.ssf/2012/06/salisbury_township_school_boar_6.html

Allentown is about 5%http://articles.mcall.com/2012-05-25/news/mc-allentown-school-budget-0524-20120525_1_teacher-pensions-allentown-school-taxes-pension-system

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ted.dobracki

9:38 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

New info: Ending fund balance for EPSD in 2011-2012 is $15.04 million, adding $3.23 million 2011-12 operating surplus to its beginning fund balance of $11.81 million.

This is in spite of the facts that the 2011-12 budget showed a $3 million deficit (actually almost $9 million, if you include the $5.7 million reserve). The results show a $3 million surplus, instead.

Looking forward, the 2012-13 budget shows a $10 million deficit, which includes a $6 million reserve that isn't intended to be spent. Making predictions can be dangerous, but based on recent history, the remaining $4 million deficit will almost surely turn into a multi-million dollar surplus again, and a $16-18 million fund balance at the end of 2012-13 is not out ouf the question. (Last spring, I predicted $14 million, and new numbers that have been published recent exceeded my expectations by $1 million).

This is in direct contradiction to comments made by some on the board, who said that the fund balance would be consumed in less than 3 years under the budget that the board approved. Do they truely understand the implications of what they are saying? Are they that clueless? Or are they trying to create a false impression of dire circumstances?

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